. >> jay carney said if you like your plan, but it is a crummy plan you can't keep your plan. that's what the president wanted -- everyone is making excuses. >> this was a lie barack obama and the democrats sold to the american people because they knew if they sold everyone the idea that they would lose their health insurance, it would be replaced by a plan that was double or triple it never would have passed. they lied because they knew if they told the truth it never would have happened. >> that's key. kirsten. >> the reason why we were sold this is for a lot of people in the obama administration and the democrats they believe the ends justifies the means. their means are good. they have good intentions and yes, we need a better health care system. you know me. i'm a conservative. we need insurance reform coupled with tort reform. we need major change and people are afraid. >> we have the free market. >> we have to sell this hard. >> senator, you have lived the life. >> let me tell you uh -- >> i have lived it. i have abused it as >> i don't know about that. this is one of t